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you think we give top lane counterpick just cuz of laning phase?

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top CAN blind pick if we gotta — jayce is the best card for that, yeah i'll do it if asked. but is there any role that can fit the comp as well as top? at most it's jungle

ok fine say we luck out, pick jayce, and comp works out. jayce needs mechanics yeah but he's also a champ that needs the jungler to watch his back. but do junglers ever watch top's back? nah they don't give a shit about top, they're off farming their own shit or ganking mid/bot

sure there are times you blind pick something other than jayce. but if you blind pick something else you get counterpicked even harder, the enemy top turns into a monster, and then it's "top gap" this and "wtf top diff" that. here's the thing most non-top players don't get — when you die 1v1 in a bad matchup, it's cuz you TRIED to resist. if you really wanna not die, you WON'T die. but then you give up 30 cs, give up prio, give up tower, give up side lane prio, give up everything... and oh look? HUGE top gap huh? insane rotation difference huh? teamfight impact is on a whole other level right? but nobody cares about what caused that. they just go "top diff"

this bullshit happens nine times out of ten every time you blind pick. you think anyone WANTS to blind pick that? they say top has the least impact and don't come top, then when they lose it's "top diff" — nah, it's YOUR asses who played like shit

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    Level 2귀야워

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    1. 만두먹다뒤짐

      yeah but even if bot gets fed, if top and jungle are inting what can u even do...

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    Level 37파괴전차의용기

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    1. The reason I don't really like first picking Aatrox is that his counters all have high ceilings. Feels like playing with a bomb collar strapped on — too risky imo.

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    Level 161허나거절한다

    I agree top has to fill the comp, but every time I see full AD, full AP, no tank by the 4th pick my blood boils.

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    Level 42서이스틱

    And how many people actually do that? There's a ton of tops who you give counterpick to and they still don't build around the comp. Hell, even with counterpick they lose lane, okay fine you can lose. But then what about when they get counterpick and blow their jungler's time? Constantly like 'bro I'm counterpick, I picked this for you guys, you gotta come to me'. There's a ton of people like that. Honestly in League, the ones who're gonna win just win, and the ones who're gonna lose just lose. Everything you said is just a part of it. And by your logic, what about support? The enemy supp picked Thresh so you gotta take Blitz. Your team has no engage? Then you gotta pick something that engages. Your argument basically works for every role.

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    1. Guess there's no helping it if you read the entire post and still come out with that kinda talk.

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    Level 11밀베장인노우현

    It's not like the only reason is laning phase, though. Looking at people who freak out over red side counterpick, it's just 'cause they're completely obsessed with laning. "Lane bully" didn't become a common term for no reason, you know.

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    Level 20유혜리

    top diff

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    Most of the time people complain is when you get counterpick and still go 0/3/0 getting destroyed in a 1v1 lane. Other cases nobody says shit. I hate seeing people whip out the 'first pick immunity' card, but whatever, I get it from a human empathy angle. But when you get counterpick AND still feed your ass off, that's when they lose their minds. And what the hell does having low impact or not getting jungler attention have to do with losing a 1v1 lane?

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    1. 설렐뻔했잖아요

      But like, you don't even know who the top laner is this game or what they can do, so not giving them counterpick with that 'you guys would just int anyway even with counterpick' fortune teller mindset is just dumb. The pick order should just be locked to top=last. Whether a player's good or bad, or cares about comp synergy or not, that's a separate issue.

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    2. 설렐뻔했잖아요I mean, I guess there are some people who don't give it to you cause they're trying to predict the draft like Gung Ye. But honestly, even without that whole mind-reading thing, there's no reason for top lane to be getting a counterpick lol

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    Level 42할게없는

    These fking junglers never come to gank even when you've already taken a counterpick from first-picking, then have the nerve to tell you to play safe. Look at this shit, it makes my blood boil.

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    1. 녹차국밥

      As someone who mains jungle and has top as my secondary, yeah, matchups matter in top lane, but like Jinyoung said — the guys who are gonna win will win no matter the matchup, and the guys who are gonna lose will still get solokilled even if I gank five times and succeed all five... It's like pouring water into a bottomless bucket; I've never actually gained anything from it... So I just tell the jungler that if they're not gonna come, don't even look at top lane.

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