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???: Women are just naturally worse at League than men, right? (Rebuttal)

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Fact: Since there are far more male players than female players, there are inevitably more good male players.

It's the same principle as drawing a ball from 100 balls (80 blue, 20 white): you're more likely to get a blue one.

Let's not generalize like "those people" do.

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  1. 46
    Level 14고오렌

    facts and let's not divide by gender... this kind of stuff creates sexism...

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  2. 28

    yeah just look at streamers there are plenty of good female players, if you go by tier ratio it's probably about the same

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    Reply 3
    1. 유우화

      걸터앉아If you look at it that way, how many female players are there in League anyway...

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    2. Untitled2014

      유우화if you compare the girl to guy ratio in high elo vs the overall ratio which one do you think would be higher

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    3. 자칭입롤의신

      Untitled2014Instead of comparing it that way, you should do it like this: the ratio of high-elo players among all female LoL users / the ratio of high-elo players among all male LoL users...

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  3. 19

    The math checks out In terms of numbers, it's true that there are more skilled male players But then to just use that to generalize that 'men are mostly better than women at LoL!' like that?

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    Reply 2
    1. if you just count numbers then guys would be better since fewer girls play league but if you look at percentages it'd be similar the percentage of bronze among female league players = the percentage of bronze among male league players

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    2. 정글인권라인평등yeah the ratio's right

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    Level 0트루이시

    it's weird logic to say that just because there are more guys in high elo, guys are better on average.. if you go by that logic, there are overwhelmingly more guys in iron/bronze/silver too lol

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    Level 31언리미티드룰북

    I've never seen a female player with an obviously girly nickname who's actually good. But a female player with a gender-neutral nickname might be good. This is just my speculation, but the more laid-back a girl's personality is, the better she seems to be at games. People like 'Sopungwatni' seem to play well.

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    Reply 3
    1. 159원

      ?? won yuri??

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    2. 블라디채고야

      did you come on a new breeze is he a cow

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    3. 파다라마

      That's not true

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  6. 4
    Level 0인백

    don't care about girls who are good lol

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  7. 4
    Level 792222222222222222

    fr mathematically it's so true

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    Level 4페이커에빠진놈

    if they're good they're good, i always envy anyone who's good

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    Level 2만년다1딱이

    why are you even arguing about this shit lol its obvious that some female players are bad right? look at all the bronze silver and gold male noobs theyre crawling with worms but nobody says theyre bad just cause theyre guys being bad is fine but blaming a loss on having a girl on the team is the problem lol there are so many uneducated shits in league and on communities who dont even get this basic common sense lol my sister also plays league and she doesnt support she plays mid and shes plat lol worse than guys? nah shes just at that plat level people have good and bad games lol and talking about 'hyeji' bullshit and 'queen bee' drama lol i get that some girls are part of the problem but honestly cant you just not kiss their ass?? why do you even hang out with those types lol if you get a bus driver on your team just shut up and play ive carried my friends plenty of times if you're gonna trash talk people you should trash talk the boosters instead lol

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    Level 13Christmas Wine

    that's a dumbass it's just because guys play more so it looks like there are more good players

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  11. 1

    i mean, whether you're a girl or a guy, if you suck you should get flamed the same. but there are so many cases where people get flamed more just for being a girl or playing utility support. don't you think the people who flame like that just want to put others down by any means??? the more i think about it, the more it seems like that's the only answer

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    Level 16귀염둥인아무무

    if you wanna flame someone just look at the nick and flame. then check their match history and just nod twice and move on

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  13. 0

    This comment was deleted.

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    Reply 5
    1. 믕게구름

      if you bring that average data, i'll think about it again

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    2. if you're gonna talk about male average and female average bring the stats on average rank by gender i'll listen

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    3. 괜찮아 안 와도 돼just ignore him he's a troll

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  14. 0
    Level 77도라에몽은야옹

    honestly i think you gotta invest time if you wanna be good at anything, but just look at pc bangs at dawn – there's almost no girls playing league lol

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    Level 31켠김에 챌까지

    why you arguing about gender? people who get boosted out of iron-bronze-silver-gold or people who are just shit, they all deserve to get flamed equally without any sexism

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    Level 20트린스타나

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    1. 만년다1딱이

      isn't it obvious lol with 95% male players in league, you think a pro's gonna come out of that?

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    Level 21스무짤

    But I do feel like there are more men who are good at games. Just look at Crazy Arcade or KartRider — there are a ton of female players, but most of the pros and top-ranked players are men. Especially in KartRider, every single pro is a guy. I don't like being sexist, but seeing stuff like this, it really does seem like men are just better.

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    Reply 4
    1. 스무짤

      Also, just from a probability comparison of the women and men around me who play League, about 40% of the men are Platinum or above, but I still haven't seen any women around me get past Platinum. Of course, my sample size isn't that large, but in my experience, if I randomly picked 10 women, none would be above Platinum. If I randomly picked 10 men, 40% would be above Platinum. So I can't prove it, but I do think men are better at gaming than women.

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    2. 만년다1딱이

      스무짤the only reason there are more good players is cause there's way more guys playing lol ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ let's be real, how many female players are actually in league? and comparing like "i'm better at league than girls" is just cringe as hell. if you really think about it, gaming was always considered a guy thing, so girls never really had a reason to get interested. none of the girls i know play league ㅇㅇ, overwatch maybe, but not league. the fact that guys are better is just true cause there are more of them playing, but you can't just take that and say all guys are better ㅇㅋ? cause the average male player is like silver. and look at female league streamers - they're literally all over the place from bronze to diamond, so stop generalizing. saying "if you're a girl you must suck at the game" is the actual generalization. if it was 50/50, half male half female, you can't guarantee guys would still have higher ranks. so it's literally just cause league is male-dominated that it looks like there are more good players. ir ratio, there are way more bad players lol

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    3. 스무짤

      만년다1딱이You're completely ignoring the fact that games like KartRider and Crazy Arcade have relatively more female players and just saying your own thing. If you want to refute me, first read my post properly and grasp the point.

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    Level 43아그네스

    nitpicking this shit ain't gonna bring anything good it's just a fucking pointless thing to do

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  19. 0
    Level 52로나바라기

    anyway you won't be meeting any girls so don't worry

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  20. 0
    Level 0skfjklsja

    just compare the overall lol player gender ratio vs the top rank male/female ratio

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    Level 42페리아제

    dude dude dude you gotta explain it simple 'that' gender won't even get it if you tell them the ratio!! you gotta add 'oink oink' at the end for them to understand like in teasing city (a childish taunt meme) :P

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    Level 1Huiohvfr

    You should be picking the 80 and the 20 separately, why are you picking from the whole 100? Your analogy is weird lol

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    Reply 4
    1. no...so if you draw 1 from 80 and 1 from 20 separately, then what? both are 1 each~ so if you combine all chinese and koreans together and pick one, the chance of chinese is 50% and korean is 50% too~ does that make sense? don't be ridiculous. i was just saying 80 babies have a higher chance of becoming a pro gamer than 20 babies. work on your reading comprehension

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    2. 까악까미

      야스오0판인자나에게돌을던져라Are you dumb? You should draw 10 times from the 80 and 10 times from the 20, then calculate the total number of drawn balls as a proportion of the whole. What the hell are you talking about? And why is it 50-50 when you draw 1 from 80 and 1 from 20? Isn't it 1/80 vs 1/20? Does that make any sense? No, it doesn't. So you draw from the whole population to get even a somewhat accurate value. Go study some probability and statistics. So fucking hilarious. You're the funniest joke I've seen all day.

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    3. 까악까미no by your logic it's 50/50, i was being sarcastic asking how that's right lololol can you not read? can't you see the question marks?

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    Level 38qpdnkk15

    women just don't play games as much as men do so they're worse

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    1. 켠김에 챌까지

      who the fuck came up with that bullshit

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    2. 5721

      켠김에 챌까지it's not that they don't play as much as men they just play less than men... well... it's the same thing

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    Level 79lncarnation

    you keep writing this same shit over and over that's why this fight never ends

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    Level 0오렌지쥬스

    i don't get why these posts keep popping up even for women those who are good are good and even for men those who are bad are bad they just suck at it so let's stop dividing people

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    Reply 1
    1. No, it's not about dividing people. I'm criticizing those who generalize and have the prejudice that female players are bad.

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